Im Hoodie said:I'll just hop in here, being an admin on bigger sites than the current one I run. Whilst being an admin, it's impossible to pick staff by yourself, it really is. You become anxious, and eventually ask for opinions from around the team. This is how I've done it, and I've been apart of on a few decently sized sites.
GrƷƷd said:And back to your reply to my voting comment. If it is just the staff voting then I feel as if it would be fair, and not a popularity contest.
GrƷƷd said:And back to your reply to my voting comment. If it is just the staff voting then I feel as if it would be fair, and not a popularity contest.
Paul H. said:Well, then again on MyBB due to the nature of the project all staff apply (the only one I know who didn't apply but was contacted by us first was Nathan Malcolm) so that might make a difference.
GrƷƷd said:Yes everyone deserves a chance. So say for example, I wanted to join Envious, but wasn't allowed in. Even if every staff and mod also agreed that I deserved a chance, if Christy didn't like me, then I wouldn't get a chance(I just used me as an example so that i wouldnt possibly offend anyone). Now tell me how that is fair?
Exactly. I don't see how it's possible that you are not in Envious or a staff member tbh, you have more reported posts than anyone(which is how Christy first got her chance at mod), you are in Power+, you have been here for a long time, nearly everyone likes you, and yet you still don't even get a chance. I got a chance before and made one single mistake and so I was demoted for it and now I would like just a chance to redeem myself, but no, I can't get into Envious because ONE person doesn't want me in.Zеus said:The only issue I have is, there are a good amount of members who have been here for awhile (including myself) that are active, very polite and smart about the rules on Fk, and have never been offered a trial staff/mod position or a spot in Envious. Seniority doesn't make you better at staff or mod but I would hope it would make them more of a choice to be looked at for staff.
Also please keep in mind i'm not saying that being on FK a longer time means you're fit for staff.
The president doesn't pick every single member in the Senate and House of Representatives, they are voted in, just saying... And they may be jealous of you for some reason, or not like you cause you were here before them, or are more likeable... There are plenty of reasons that someone may not like another person for even when that other person did nothing wrong.Ocean said:Saying that Christy doesn't like you is like saying Philly doesn't like you. Obviously, you did something to make him or her dislike you, and that's not completely their fault.
You speak as if Christy doesn't have every right to choose staff. She does. She's admin for a reason...
Zеus said:The only issue I have is, there are a good amount of members who have been here for awhile (including myself) that are active, very polite and smart about the rules on Fk, and have never been offered a trial staff/mod position or a spot in Envious. Seniority doesn't make you better at staff or mod but I would hope it would make them more of a choice to be looked at for staff.
Also please keep in mind i'm not saying that being on FK a longer time means you're fit for staff.
GrƷƷd said:Exactly. I don't see how it's possible that you are not in Envious or a staff member tbh, you have more reported posts than anyone(which is how Christy first got her chance at mod), you are in Power+, you have been here for a long time, nearly everyone likes you, and yet you still don't even get a chance. I got a chance before and made one single mistake and so I was demoted for it and now I would like just a chance to redeem myself, but no, I can't get into Envious because ONE person doesn't want me in.
The president doesn't pick every single member in the Senate and House of Representatives, they are voted in, just saying... And they may be jealous of you for some reason, or not like you cause you were here before them, or are more likeable... There are plenty of reasons that someone may not like another person for even when that other person did nothing wrong.
GrƷƷd said:Exactly. I don't see how it's possible that you are not in Envious or a staff member tbh, you have more reported posts than anyone(which is how Christy first got her chance at mod), you are in Power+, you have been here for a long time, nearly everyone likes you, and yet you still don't even get a chance. I got a chance before and made one single mistake and so I was demoted for it and now I would like just a chance to redeem myself, but no, I can't get into Envious because ONE person doesn't want me in.
The president doesn't pick every single member in the Senate and House of Representatives, they are voted in, just saying... And they may be jealous of you for some reason, or not like you cause you were here before them, or are more likeable... There are plenty of reasons that someone may not like another person for even when that other person did nothing wrong.
Okay sure I accept that but a certain mod who gave me the warning gave me another one on accident. Can you please ask Living to remove the second warning since its invalid?Ocean said:I'm just putting this out there. You have multiple warnings, yet you are telling me that you are smart about the rules here. Are you kidding?
This is probably harsh, but I don't want you to be lying to yourself... .-.
I've been around for a while too, and I consider myself polite to a point. You have had the same opportunity. We've all started out with zero posts. Maybe with a different join date, but so what? Time will keep going.
Zеus said:Okay sure I accept that but a certain mod who gave me the warning gave me another one on accident.
( Warning was for 25 characters )
GrƷƷd said:Yeah, but still. I just want a more equal opportunity for all because if the majority of a staff team think someone would be good, but one of the admins doesn't because they don't like that person, most of the time the multiple staff members are gonna be right. I just don't see how in any way a vote would be unfair.
GrƷƷd said:I mean Zeus definitely deserves a chance in Envious but even I am still refused the opportunity to have a chance in Envious yet I have NEVER been warned and I seem to know the rules just as good as anyone else.
Ocean said:Okay, I'll say it again. Any vote can end in a popularity contest. If Philly doesn't want a certain member to have staff or mod, then you can bet that that member will not be receiving staff or mod. That's how it works. The admins get the final say. That's how any forum works. Staff picks on a forum are not a democracy no matter how you try to slice it. There will be flaws in any system.
You already had a chance, and you messed up. You didn't even have to go through Envious. It would be pretty hard for you to come back, and I think you know that. .-.
Ocean said:Okay, I'll say it again. Any vote can end in a popularity contest. If Philly doesn't want a certain member to have staff or mod, then you can bet that that member will not be receiving staff or mod. That's how it works. The admins get the final say. That's how any forum works. Staff picks on a forum are not a democracy no matter how you try to slice it. There will be flaws in any system.
You already had a chance, and you messed up. You didn't even have to go through Envious. It would be pretty hard for you to come back, and I think you know that. .-.
Also, a forum isn't all about staff. I think many members of any forum forget this. They only hunger for power on a forum, and when they aren't given a chance, they get aggravated, and it leads to threads like this. Where is the logic in that? As a staff member, you only walk the line between being the bad and good guy on the forum. You clean up other people's stupid shit on the forum, and you are pressured to make the right choice all the time. It's not an easy job, and I don't understand why people want it so much. I'm sure it's the natural power hunger in people. .-.
GrƷƷd said:Pretty hard why is that? Why can't I just join and prove myself? And most people think I did a fine job, I just broke the secret rule of giving out another member's TeamViewer information that happened to be great friends with a certain admin, so I was demoted.
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