The Death Sentence

[Solar]

The issue is that you yourself are committing an extremely immoral act in an attempt to put justice on someone who perpetrated the very act that you are committing by punishing him for that act. The families of the victims have an altered perspective, and thus shouldn't be consulted for what they think is just. For example, the family of a victim of a drunk driver would probably love to sentence that man to death, but that doesn't make it moral.

I understand the fact that the grief of the families doesn't make it moral. Let's say that Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook Elementary shooter, had survived. He killed a total of 28 people, of which included students, faculty, and staff. This massacre left the entire nation grief-stricken and reignited the inevitable debate on gun control. I'm guessing that the majority of the country probably wouldn't mind seeing him face capital punishment.

 

[Nevermind]

I understand the fact that the grief of the families doesn't make it moral. Let's say that Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook Elementary shooter, had survived. He killed a total of 28 people, of which included students, faculty, and staff. This massacre left the entire nation grief-stricken and reignited the inevitable debate on gun control. I'm guessing that the majority of the country probably wouldn't mind seeing him face capital punishment.

Even though the majority would love to see him dead, that doesn't at all make the killing of him moral. That's an argumentum ad populum.

 

[Solar]

Even though the majority would love to see him dead, that doesn't at all make the killing of him moral. That's an argumentum ad populum.

Well, obviously the act of murder is never considered to be moral. However, if Adam Lanza was granted capital punishment, it would have been seen as an "eye for an eye" type of situation. Had he been sentenced to life in prison, he would be rotting away in a cell with our taxpayer money allowing him to do so. In essence, we would be funding the life of a mass-murderer.

 

[Nevermind]

Well, obviously the act of murder is never considered to be moral. However, if Adam Lanza was granted capital punishment, it would have been seen as an "eye for an eye" type of situation. Had he been sentenced to life in prison, he would be rotting away in a cell with our taxpayer money allowing him to do so. In essence, we would be funding the life of a mass-murderer.

The death penalty is more expensive in most cases. An 'eye-for-an-eye' justice system is not an effective system.

 

[Solar]

The death penalty is more expensive in most cases. An 'eye-for-an-eye' justice system is not an effective system.

I'm not saying that an 'eye-for-an-eye' justice system should be trusted in each and every case. In this given situation, however, it would likely make for an effective solution.

 

[Nevermind]

I'm not saying that an 'eye-for-an-eye' justice system should be trusted in each and every case. In this given situation, however, it would likely make for an effective solution.

I completely disagree.

 

[Nevermind]

So you think some bum ass friend who killed a bunch of innocent little kids should've deserved to keep living?

I don't think that they deserve to die.

 

[Nevermind]

Why not? If we don't get to kill him at least we should be able to make his cellmate a black guy named bubbles.

I've already explained this. Read my previous posts.

 

[Solar]

I completely disagree.

We're getting down to subjective morality here, but I'd still like to ask a question. Would you rather he be allowed to live as opposed to be sentenced to death? I myself am not a grief-stricken family member, and I certainly wouldn't have a problem with seeing him on death row. Hearing about this man murder 20 innocent schoolchildren in cold blood is really all it took to make up my mind.

 

[Nevermind]

We're getting down to subjective morality here, but I'd still like to ask a question. Would you rather he be allowed to live as opposed to be sentenced to death? I myself am not a grief-stricken family member, and I certainly wouldn't have a problem with seeing him on death row. Hearing about this man murder 20 innocent schoolchildren in cold blood is really all it took to make up my mind.

I'd have a problem sentencing anyone to death. Death is an easy way out for a killer. They should have to serve their time.

 

[Radical]

Can someone make a summary for me, so I can catch up.

 

[Radical]

Death is the easy way out which is why my cellmate idea is perfect.

Keep in mind they have to wait like 10-20 years before they are actually killed.

 

[Prepare]

The death sentence is not acceptable. It is more expensive, solves nothing, and is extremely immoral.

Why should tax payers pay to keep a serial killer alive? Pay to feed this man/woman, pay to house them, pay to let them breathe inside of a cell block when they do not deserve to be living. The grieving families are essentially paying to keep the killer of their loved one(s) alive.

If someone goes on a killing spree and murders multiple innocent people and gets caught and sent to prison, is that really punishment? To kill multiple people and get to eat, sleep, and breathe while there's grieving families wishing their loved one can do the same?

 

[Radical]

Why should tax payers pay to keep a serial killer alive? Pay to feed this man/woman, pay to house them, pay to let them breathe inside of a cell block when they do not deserve to be living. The grieving families are essentially paying to keep the killer of their loved one(s) alive.

If someone goes on a killing spree and murders multiple innocent people and gets caught and sent to prison, is that really punishment? To kill multiple people and get to eat, sleep, and breathe while there's grieving families wishing their loved one can do the same?

Yea, but death is the easier way out. Would you rather go to sleep forever and wait ten years, or for 20-60+ years live in prison with no contact with anything outside your cell.

 

[Nevermind]

Why should tax payers pay to keep a serial killer alive? Pay to feed this man/woman, pay to house them, pay to let them breathe inside of a cell block when they do not deserve to be living. The grieving families are essentially paying to keep the killer of their loved one(s) alive.

If someone goes on a killing spree and murders multiple innocent people and gets caught and sent to prison, is that really punishment? To kill multiple people and get to eat, sleep, and breathe while there's grieving families wishing their loved one can do the same?

The death penalty is more expensive than keeping them in prison.

Yes, that is punishment. They do not get to live in society anymore and they are isolated from contact with others. It's not like a serial killer moves to a minimum security prison. They are in extremely high security places with minimal contact and almost complete isolation. That is much more of a punishment than death.

 

[Sarcasm]

I want the death sentence, Simple as that. I don't want some piece of shit raping a 12 year old girl and getting 10 years, That's bullshit that I see that happening all over country. Make them pay.

 

[Prepare]

The death penalty is more expensive than keeping them in prison.

Yes, that is punishment. They do not get to live in society anymore and they are isolated from contact with others. It's not like a serial killer moves to a minimum security prison. They are in extremely high security places with minimal contact and almost complete isolation. That is much more of a punishment than death.

But that's not free. We're keeping these killers alive so they can sit in a cell for X number I years. I can bet that over half of them don't even care about whether or not they talk to anyone or not.

 

[Phormick]

I want the death sentence, Simple as that. I don't want some piece of shit raping a 12 year old girl and getting 10 years, That's bullshit that I see that happening all over country. Make them pay.

By making their life easier and putting them out of their misery? No. Let them rot there in a cell with no windows, 1 meal a day, no one to talk to.

 

[Nevermind]

But that's not free. We're keeping these killers alive so they can sit in a cell for X number I years. I can bet that over half of them don't even care about whether or not they talk to anyone or not.

Your original claim was that it's more expensive, which is untrue. Now your argument has changed to the fact that you're spending money on them, which isn't much of an argument. Death penalty or not, tax payers money is still going to be funding the criminal.

 

[Sarcasm]

By making their life easier and putting them out of their misery? No. Let them rot there in a cell with no windows, 1 meal a day, no one to talk to.

I guess, But you are wasting your money on some scumbag for like 15years; If the criminal killed someone he should die. Another thing is that its our tax dollars we are paying for someone who keeps appealing their parole @Shawn. I also think they should bring back Public Hangings