25 Reasons Not to Believe in A God

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Ace said:

I'll tell you why you don't believe you don't believe in anything that doesn't exist physically when it comes to religion you have never tried to see proof of god so sit down


Ok mini rage is over I just wanted to throw that in

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You're going to have to point out the 'proof of god' you're referring to. It's entirely plausible that the bible (old testament at the very least) is fictional. There is NO PROOF of god, so why don't you make a rational argument before telling him to sit down.

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Raptor said:

You're going to have to point out the 'proof of god' you're referring to. It's entirely plausible that the bible (old testament at the very least) is fictional. There is NO PROOF of god, so why don't you make a rational argument before telling him to sit down.

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I don't have to if you want proof not proof that everyone in the world will no about just ask him

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Ace said:

I don't have to if you want proof not proof that everyone in the world will no about just ask him

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You're making no sense. Try Googling basic sentence structure and grammatical tips, you'd benefit a tonne from the help. I THINK you're saying that if I ask 'god' then I'll receive answers? News flash, people in poor countries ask god for help all the time then promptly starve to death. There goes that idea. Perhaps you could actually point to some TANGIBLE PROOF, rather than hearsay and blind faith as your reasoning for why you believe a god, particularly the one you follow, exists.

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Raptor said:

You're making no sense. Try Googling basic sentence structure and grammatical tips, you'd benefit a tonne from the help. I THINK you're saying that if I ask 'god' then I'll receive answers? News flash, people in poor countries ask god for help all the time then promptly starve to death. There goes that idea. Perhaps you could actually point to some TANGIBLE PROOF, rather than hearsay and blind faith as your reasoning for why you believe a god, particularly the one you follow, exists.

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You wrote all of this and idc enough to read it

It could be said that you just wasted your time

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Ace said:

You wrote all of this and idc enough to read it

It could be said that you just wasted your time

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Great to see you're being mature about things. I love when a person has no valid response to an argument how they often fall back on personal insults and thinks that they come off as being an intelligent, informed person. You don't.

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Raptor said:

Great to see you're being mature about things. I love when a person has no valid response to an argument how they often fall back on personal insults and thinks that they come off as being an intelligent, informed person. You don't.

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Honestly I could be intelligent if I wanted but I'm just living my PC life not really caring

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Edd said:

Well, many seem to abide by their own understandings & beliefs etc. I believe in God because I know with all my heart God is real. When people's thinking is controlled by the sinful self, they are against God, because they refuse to obey God's law. You have receive God into your life because he is not waiting to receive you he's waiting for you to receive him. Ask him to reveal his existence to you, I'm sure he will. But you must have faith.

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God's law? Yes, let's persecute and slaughter the homosexuals, the witches, those who refuse to listen to the priest, fortunetellers, the adulterers, the fornicators, the bratty children. Let's follow God's law.

Read what your God's laws really are before you even attempt to enforce your unsubstantiated beliefs on anyone.

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm

I will not have faith in any God for the reasoning that you can apply faith to any God no matter how outrageous or realistic they are, nor will faith ever be able to distinguish if it's the right God.

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What's the point in debating this half of the people that think God doesn't exist their opinion's never change.

If you're not looking to gain knowledge and try to understand the other point of view, what's the point?

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Ace said:

What's the point in debating this half of the people that think God doesn't exist their opinion's never change.

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Perchance, there's a reasoning atheists never change their viewpoints and theists do.

Ace said:

If you're not looking to gain knowledge and try to understand the other point of view, what's the point?

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We are though, so this hypothetical is pointless to answer.

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Ace, these guys have been really nice about everything but after reading these last few posts by you, I cant be. Start making some fucking sense, give us some fucking proof. Get to the fucking point man, prove what you're preaching, or you can kindly gtfo.

Holy shit it annoys me that people like him make up the majority of the world. How sad of humanity to come to this. We are so much better, so capable of being so much more.

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Alt said:

Ace, these guys have been really nice about everything but after reading these last few posts by you, I cant be. Start making some fucking sense, give us some fucking proof. Get to the fucking point man, prove what you're preaching, or you can kindly gtfo.

Holy shit it annoys me that people like him make up the majority of the world. How sad of humanity to come to this. We are so much better, so capable of being so much more.

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What I think is sad is the amount of judgement that can be passed on one person for having fun for enjoying life in his or her own way.

Do you really think proving a point in a useless debate online is my top priority?

Do you really think I care how I'm viewed when half of you know nothing about me and probably never will, don't start with the bs.

All you display to me is how sad humanity really is so what if I'm not smart (which I actually am pretty smart) is that a reason to get angered and pass judgement you people are sad to me you prove that humanity has no care for those who don't fit in.

What you label me because I replied with my opinion not really caring if I didn't make sense or sound smart so what? If you're really that smart just pass me by I'm pathetic in your eyes anyways a worthless human not worth living just taking up space right?

And that's all I have I don't want to get too serious even this topic is not worth debating with fools who don't bother to change.

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Ace said:

What I think is sad is the amount of judgement that can be passed on one person for having fun for enjoying life in his or her own way.

Do you really think proving a point in a useless debate online is my top priority?

Do you really think I care how I'm viewed when half of you know nothing about me and probably never will, don't start with the bs.

All you display to me is how sad humanity really is so what if I'm not smart (which I actually am pretty smart) is that a reason to get angered and pass judgement you people are sad to me you prove that humanity has no care for those who don't fit in.

What you label me because I replied with my opinion not really caring if I didn't make sense or sound smart so what? If you're really that smart just pass me by I'm pathetic in your eyes anyways a worthless human not worth living just taking up space right?

And that's all I have I don't want to get too serious even this topic is not worth debating with fools who don't bother to change.

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ITS BECAUSE I FUCKING CARE MAN. Im not here to disprove you or make myself out to be righteous. You are correct, this is an internet forum, and just one thread and one conversation of it. The words I am typing right now are 100% irrelevant compared to the greatness of the universe.

You ARE smart. You ARE an intelligent human being. I respect you. What I want more than anything, is for you to start BEING what you are.

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Ace said:

And that's all I have I don't want to get too serious even this topic is not worth debating with fools who don't bother to change.

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Within that statement you implied atheists are close-minded, and should be open-minded.

Watch this video to realize how wrong you are on that.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/video]

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Cann!bal said:

Within that statement you implied atheists are close-minded, and should be open-minded.

Watch this video to realize how wrong you are on that.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/video]

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If he truly is what he is claiming others are not, he will spend 10 minutes of his life to watch that. Hopefully it will be enough to help him understand where we are coming from. If he chooses not to watch it, may he find his way back in the herd of sheep.

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I don't have to watch the video to know I've had my time to choose and was open minded during that time period but I just didn't choose the same route you did I have seen proof of god personally that took away my doubt in him.

On this you can't convince me you bring forth valid and good evidence I just don't share the same view.

Hey you did sway me on the pedophile topic though I saw it through your eyes and saw that you were right in what you were trying to get people to understand

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Ace said:

I don't have to watch the video to know I've had my time choose and was open minded during that time period but I just didn't choose the same route you did I have seen proof of god personally that took away my doubt in him.

On this you can't convince me you bring forth valid and good evidence I just don't share the same view.

Hey you did sway me on the pedophile topic though I saw it through your eyes and saw that you were right in what you were trying to get people to understand

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I was afraid of a response like that. All I ask is that you present this proof to the best of your ability. Whether it be you or me, one of us can come out with a bit more knowledge on the opposing point of view than we did before. If you truly believe in god, and that he (it) is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient, you as a human being should be more than willing to share this great knowledge with those who dont believe the same as you do, for the better sake of your fellow man. So please, do tell.

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I can't tell you much of nothing you maybe willing to learn but I can't teach you these things I can tell you about them but in the end it's still on you to go to him if you have problems with him not existing.

I know my words can't do much if you still are like "well I have never seen him I have no valid proof of his existence" etc. which I understand I can see your point of view.

This transcends regular human understanding I can't even express it in words, if you're not ignorant and where not trained by your parents to believe then you wondered it's really something that just happens.

I can actually say I half believed until about 4 months or so ago when I went to Kansas with my parents and we went to a pastors house to have dinner you know when you go over for dinner it's never really just dinner with church folks.

I'm sure you know what a prophet is that is what I am and while I was over there I could see things in parents life that I know would come to pass without even ever knowing anything about that topic I just had that feeling that what I was saying was truth.

Just about everything that I said is happening now or already happened in my parents life.

That's about as best as I can describe to you why I believe, it's just something you know is truth even without evidence of ever seeing god you just know his presence is there

RE: Why I don't believe in God

Ace said:

I don't have to watch the video to know I've had my time to choose and was open minded during that time period but I just didn't choose the same route you did I have seen proof of god personally that took away my doubt in him.

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Look at everyone else's personal evidences; all coming from different religions and beliefs. How does your personal evidence make you right?

Personal evidence does not distinguish that the God you believe in, is the right God; nor does it prove God to yourself. It just strengthens your faith, which is based on irrational grounds.

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Cann!bal said:

Look at everyone else's personal evidences; all coming from different religions and beliefs. How does your personal evidence make you right?

Personal evidence does not distinguish that the God you believe in, is the right God; nor does it prove God to yourself. It just strengthens your faith, which is based on irrational grounds.

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I'm no longer apart of this debate the post above was my last post about this topic

No matter what you say it's almost irrelevant to me my beliefs have been set and are not changing I see that you don't believe in things that cannot be seen or proven and that's the reason why your atheist I'm just not that way I can't be swayed.

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Thanks, Ace. I understand your POV, but do not agree with it. I respect you for attempting to make sense of your belief, and accepting that we cannot begin to agree with it until we see it for ourselves.