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25 Reasons Not to Believe in A God
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RE: Why I don't believe in God
I'm surprised that when I speak to anybody about religion, or the existence of God, that I use many of these points (but not all).
I completely like to take the theory of evolution, but I do wonder how it all started, which as for now cannot be scientifically proven of how the very beginning was done.
I'd like to believe there was something up there so that people won't loose complete hope in what they would like to believe, and so that it doesn't make everyone in the past seem like a bunch of mental & psychotic imbeciles.
I'm surprised that when I speak to anybody about religion, or the existence of God, that I use many of these points (but not all).
I completely like to take the theory of evolution, but I do wonder how it all started, which as for now cannot be scientifically proven of how the very beginning was done.
I'd like to believe there was something up there so that people won't loose complete hope in what they would like to believe, and so that it doesn't make everyone in the past seem like a bunch of mental & psychotic imbeciles.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
Give me an N! Now give me an O! What does that spell? NO ONE FUCKING CARES.
Trying to debate on wether Christianity is real or God exists is pointless? Do you know why? Because there are never going to be any answers for Believers or Atheists. And the arguing is just one big stalemate. So no thank you... I will not try to explain to you why there is a God nor support your explanation of why there isn't one because there is nothing positive or negative that will come from that.
Cann!bal said:Why I don't Believe in God or any Religion
1. There is no valid proof of God.
a. If we had scientific proof of a God's existence, all religious people would be aligning on the God that had been scientifically proven to exist. Instead there are thousands of gods and religions. So why doesn't God just prove he exists?
2. The Bible is full of mythology and folklore.
a. Bible includes creatures from Greek mythology.
3. Statistically praying does absolutely nothing.
4. God has never spoken to modern man.
5. The concept of a God is illogical.
6. Bible is unreliable source of proof and evidence for beliefs.
7. The Bible has a timeline that's only 6000 years old which expands from the creation of the Earth and Sun to the status quo.
a. There is an immense amount of evidence that shows the Earth and Sun are older than this.
8. The concept of an afterlife is illogical.
9. The hundreds of Bible contradictions.
a. These contradictions show supporting evidence that the Bible was created by primitive men.
b. The Bible is outdated.
10. Miracles allegedly made by God are just coincidences.
11. Religion is superstition.
12. When the massacre of the innocents occurred, no one cared to write down that all male children in the vicinity of Bethlehem were brutally massacred.
13. Christianity is based on faith.
a. You can apply faith to any God no matter how outrageous or realistic they are.
14. All Gods are unfalsifiable.
15. Look at all the Gods you reject. What evidence makes this God the right God?
16. The Bible lies to us.
17. Noah's Ark is impossible.
a. It's impossible that the ark could hold 2 each of the millions of species that were already on Earth.
b. Mt. Everest was never covered in flood water.
c. Noah was 500+ years old.
18. God is evil.
a. Murdered millions of humans and billions of animals during the flood.
b. He's a murderer.
c. Supposedly all-loving yet he murders us, lets us suffer and die.
19. There are religions that out date Christianity.
20. There's no proof of souls.
21. God has a plan for everybody.This means we have no freewill since our life was already planned out. So, it's not Hitler's fault that he was a bad person, it's God's. Not the pedophile's fault that he raped that little boy, it was God's fault. Not our fault we sin, it's God's. Everything is God's fault, not yours.Because God made you for a reason, he also decided when you would be born and how long you would live. He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. The Bible says, "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16]
22. The Bible condones and or endorses rape, murder, war, slavery, sexism, homophobia, intolerance and more things that modern society would deem inappropriate.
23. Jesus' message makes no sense. His message basically is "I love you and will for all eternity. But if you don't worship me I will send you to Hell and you will experience a unimaginable amount of pain, agony and suffering, and you will burn for eternity."
24. God is too busy to show himself for 1 second to prove to us that he exists.
25. No omnipotent being would be so flawed and stupid.
Only thing I like about Christianity is that it endorses and condones cannibalism.
John 6:53-54 "Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."
Leviticus 26:29 "You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters."
Feel free to ask any questions.
EDIT: I'm much more better informed of the topic of God now, and plan to update my list soon.
Give me an N! Now give me an O! What does that spell? NO ONE FUCKING CARES.
Trying to debate on wether Christianity is real or God exists is pointless? Do you know why? Because there are never going to be any answers for Believers or Atheists. And the arguing is just one big stalemate. So no thank you... I will not try to explain to you why there is a God nor support your explanation of why there isn't one because there is nothing positive or negative that will come from that.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
It actually spells 'no'.
Christianity's real, I was never debating that. The God debate is important, because your belief can drastically dictate how you perceive the world. We shouldn't perceive the world through the filter of ignorance.
Answers to what?
Nothing positive nor negative will result from it? What would result from it then, neutrality? I don't understand what you're saying.
Kill said:
It actually spells 'no'.
Kill said:
Christianity's real, I was never debating that. The God debate is important, because your belief can drastically dictate how you perceive the world. We shouldn't perceive the world through the filter of ignorance.
Answers to what?
Nothing positive nor negative will result from it? What would result from it then, neutrality? I don't understand what you're saying.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
Yet another pointless fucking comment in this section, what a surprise. If you don't have anything intelligent to add, don't add anything at all. You've not rebutted or supported a single one of his arguments, and have made an attack instead at the heart of debating in general. Do you understand the meaning of philosophy? There is almost never a true answer for a philosophical question, and yet people debate them. Why? Because it stimulates rational and intelligent discussion which people find enjoyable or challenging. If you have no wish to take part in that, don't simply post saying debates are pointless, and that you won't try to explain anything.
Kill said:
Yet another pointless fucking comment in this section, what a surprise. If you don't have anything intelligent to add, don't add anything at all. You've not rebutted or supported a single one of his arguments, and have made an attack instead at the heart of debating in general. Do you understand the meaning of philosophy? There is almost never a true answer for a philosophical question, and yet people debate them. Why? Because it stimulates rational and intelligent discussion which people find enjoyable or challenging. If you have no wish to take part in that, don't simply post saying debates are pointless, and that you won't try to explain anything.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
So you're claiming you think that if 90% of the world found out the person who they believe created them, the world, and everything they've ever known, and they base their ENTIRE lives around this being, that would result in neutrality?
And to think, all of those lives lost over that very being, all of the money given, and hatred spewed, and manipulation and molestation. The very thing that separated mankind.
Well, I know a lot of "believers" that still wouldnt accept it, even with the perfect proof possible. They would continue living their lives in...lies.
Then you'd have those who would accept it, but just brush off thousands of years of mental enslavement, brainwashing, manipulation and every other thing that has stemmed from religion and put a monopoly on society. Boy would I love to nail them to a cross and demean them for a few days.
And maybe you would even have a few that said wow, you guys were right. Now Im depressed and have to find meaning in my life.
Basically, almost all of you are fucking useless. Because if you didnt question for yourself, or werent able to understand the concept of logic, reason, rationality to the point where you were SKEPTICAL enough to think for yourself. I mean, its only in our blood to be the way as humans. How do you think we got to where we are today? Surely
So you're claiming you think that if 90% of the world found out the person who they believe created them, the world, and everything they've ever known, and they base their ENTIRE lives around this being, that would result in neutrality?
And to think, all of those lives lost over that very being, all of the money given, and hatred spewed, and manipulation and molestation. The very thing that separated mankind.
Well, I know a lot of "believers" that still wouldnt accept it, even with the perfect proof possible. They would continue living their lives in...lies.
Then you'd have those who would accept it, but just brush off thousands of years of mental enslavement, brainwashing, manipulation and every other thing that has stemmed from religion and put a monopoly on society. Boy would I love to nail them to a cross and demean them for a few days.
And maybe you would even have a few that said wow, you guys were right. Now Im depressed and have to find meaning in my life.
Basically, almost all of you are fucking useless. Because if you didnt question for yourself, or werent able to understand the concept of logic, reason, rationality to the point where you were SKEPTICAL enough to think for yourself. I mean, its only in our blood to be the way as humans. How do you think we got to where we are today?
See, I just spend a little time explaining my thought process in arriving at the opinion I hold on this topic. Would it Kill you to put a little into yours, rather than just saying "Precisely?"
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Kill said:
So you're claiming you think that if 90% of the world found out the person who they believe created them, the world, and everything they've ever known, and they base their ENTIRE lives around this being, that would result in neutrality?
And to think, all of those lives lost over that very being, all of the money given, and hatred spewed, and manipulation and molestation. The very thing that separated mankind.
Well, I know a lot of "believers" that still wouldnt accept it, even with the perfect proof possible. They would continue living their lives in...lies.
Then you'd have those who would accept it, but just brush off thousands of years of mental enslavement, brainwashing, manipulation and every other thing that has stemmed from religion and put a monopoly on society. Boy would I love to nail them to a cross and demean them for a few days.
And maybe you would even have a few that said wow, you guys were right. Now Im depressed and have to find meaning in my life.
Basically, almost all of you are fucking useless. Because if you didnt question for yourself, or werent able to understand the concept of logic, reason, rationality to the point where you were SKEPTICAL enough to think for yourself. I mean, its only in our blood to be the way as humans. How do you think we got to where we are today? Surely
Kill said:
So you're claiming you think that if 90% of the world found out the person who they believe created them, the world, and everything they've ever known, and they base their ENTIRE lives around this being, that would result in neutrality?
And to think, all of those lives lost over that very being, all of the money given, and hatred spewed, and manipulation and molestation. The very thing that separated mankind.
Well, I know a lot of "believers" that still wouldnt accept it, even with the perfect proof possible. They would continue living their lives in...lies.
Then you'd have those who would accept it, but just brush off thousands of years of mental enslavement, brainwashing, manipulation and every other thing that has stemmed from religion and put a monopoly on society. Boy would I love to nail them to a cross and demean them for a few days.
And maybe you would even have a few that said wow, you guys were right. Now Im depressed and have to find meaning in my life.
Basically, almost all of you are fucking useless. Because if you didnt question for yourself, or werent able to understand the concept of logic, reason, rationality to the point where you were SKEPTICAL enough to think for yourself. I mean, its only in our blood to be the way as humans. How do you think we got to where we are today?
See, I just spend a little time explaining my thought process in arriving at the opinion I hold on this topic. Would it Kill you to put a little into yours, rather than just saying "Precisely?"
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RE: Why I don't believe in God
You cannot prove if he is real or fake.
I go to church every sunday lol.
First of all, you cant say if he is real or fake, all you proved is information on how he is fake.
Here is how he is real.
How was the earth and space made?
It wasnt the big bang, It was god.
God made everything in the universe, the Earth wouldn't be here without it.
How do you think humans were made? We couldn't have possibly been here without God. God made us people, you have no proof he didn't make us, but my point is somewhat incorrect. I have no full proof in all of this, Im just 99.9% sure.
You cannot prove if he is real or fake.
I go to church every sunday lol.
First of all, you cant say if he is real or fake, all you proved is information on how he is fake.
Here is how he is real.
How was the earth and space made?
It wasnt the big bang, It was god.
God made everything in the universe, the Earth wouldn't be here without it.
How do you think humans were made? We couldn't have possibly been here without God. God made us people, you have no proof he didn't make us, but my point is somewhat incorrect. I have no full proof in all of this, Im just 99.9% sure.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
Nor can you prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster is fake, for all Gods are unfalsifiable claims with no valid evidence.
None of your unsubstantiated claims prove he is real. You're simply putting forth your religious ideology that you were taught.
It it very plausible that we came to be without a God. Plus, you're ignoring the question of who created God.
I don't need to provide proof that he didn't make us, for the reasoning that radical claims call for radical proof.
bloody said:
Nor can you prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster is fake, for all Gods are unfalsifiable claims with no valid evidence.
None of your unsubstantiated claims prove he is real. You're simply putting forth your religious ideology that you were taught.
It it very plausible that we came to be without a God. Plus, you're ignoring the question of who created God.
I don't need to provide proof that he didn't make us, for the reasoning that radical claims call for radical proof.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
I've thought of all of the same things, Jesus supposedly walked on water and all this shit. But, what I find funny is there is no modern day miracles. Take a look, the Boston Bombings, 9/11, all terrorist attacks on any country? All supported by a "religion" (Slurred religion made by Gihadists) Still, even if that is ONE religion why the fuck is the only "person" who came back to life Jesus? Exactly, no fucking answer. Also, supposedly you goto a mystical place called "Heaven" now explain how this would work. Your supposed "soul" shoots out of your body and goes to the sky? :chuckle: Even LaVeyan Satanism is more believable then Christianity or any of that bullshit. I'm straight up atheist.
If this is true explain Jihad Muslims, they are doing it for their "religion"
I've thought of all of the same things, Jesus supposedly walked on water and all this shit. But, what I find funny is there is no modern day miracles. Take a look, the Boston Bombings, 9/11, all terrorist attacks on any country? All supported by a "religion" (Slurred religion made by Gihadists) Still, even if that is ONE religion why the fuck is the only "person" who came back to life Jesus? Exactly, no fucking answer. Also, supposedly you goto a mystical place called "Heaven" now explain how this would work. Your supposed "soul" shoots out of your body and goes to the sky? :chuckle: Even LaVeyan Satanism is more believable then Christianity or any of that bullshit. I'm straight up atheist.
Hitmarker said:
If this is true explain Jihad Muslims, they are doing it for their "religion"
RE: Why I don't believe in God
Don't twist the words in context... Where did I ever bring up persecuting anyone? Please don't try and twist the context. Your choices are your own choices that you make. I don't hate priest, fortunetellers, the adulterers, the fornicators, the bratty children or homosexuals. I hate the sin not the sinner, like if a friend of mine was gay, I wouldn't hate/persecute them for what they are instead I would pray for them. Many won't accept the fact that God is real, so you will decline it because you say you can't see him or can't find evidence. PM me for some of your evidential needs bro.
Cann!bal said:
Don't twist the words in context... Where did I ever bring up persecuting anyone? Please don't try and twist the context. Your choices are your own choices that you make. I don't hate priest, fortunetellers, the adulterers, the fornicators, the bratty children or homosexuals. I hate the sin not the sinner, like if a friend of mine was gay, I wouldn't hate/persecute them for what they are instead I would pray for them. Many won't accept the fact that God is real, so you will decline it because you say you can't see him or can't find evidence. PM me for some of your evidential needs bro.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
There's no misconstruction. I brought up persecution and slaughter of the aforementioned list, because you brought up God's law, which you are so blatantly ignorant of.
You can't state that God's a fact without any valid evidence; that's a total logical fallacy to do so.
Edd said:
There's no misconstruction. I brought up persecution and slaughter of the aforementioned list, because you brought up God's law, which you are so blatantly ignorant of.
You can't state that God's a fact without any valid evidence; that's a total logical fallacy to do so.
RE: Why I don't believe in God
I don't believe in God or any faith, I don't like the idea of being the servant or "child" of a greater being. I prefer the idea that the human race are there own masters and aren't in servitude to an imaginary deity created in times before proper understanding of science. For that is what religion truly is, and was, merely a way of explaining occurrences that were deemed miraculous at the time, but are just ordinary science nowadays.
I don't believe in God or any faith, I don't like the idea of being the servant or "child" of a greater being. I prefer the idea that the human race are there own masters and aren't in servitude to an imaginary deity created in times before proper understanding of science. For that is what religion truly is, and was, merely a way of explaining occurrences that were deemed miraculous at the time, but are just ordinary science nowadays.
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