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Are Gays Born Being Gay[Updated]

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Color said:
This is untrue. There are genes that may be related to having a 40% chance of homosexuality, the rest may come from environmental factors. Keep in mind, none of this is confirmed, this is all theoretical based on similarities within homosexuals genetics, and to my knowledge, only applies to males.

@"Leader"'s most recent response is sufficient, so there's no point in my giving you the same answer. I will reiterate one thing, though, just so that there's no more confusion. It's not a choice, end of story.
 

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Malzahar said:
It's a choice or rather a preference. I've seen men and women go from straight to bi to all the way homosexual. It's not some stupid "destiny". It's a preference, each person chooses who they are attracted to.

@Leader then explain to me, why can you look at a woman, love her, yet I'll look at the same woman, and will never be able to love her. It's not like you both were "destined" to be wed.

That contradicts what you said above. You said it's a preference who you love, as in you choose who you love, but then you said that you could look at someone and never love them. By your logic, you would be able to love her because it's all preference.

I never mentioned the word destiny, nor do I believe in such a thing.
 

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Solar said:
@"Leader"'s most recent response is sufficient, so there's no point in my giving you the same answer. I will reiterate one thing, though, just so that there's no more confusion. It's not a choice, end of story.

Then what the hell is it. If it's not a choice, what is it? I can CHOOSE to stick my dick in a guy's anus, or I can CHOOSE to have sexual interactions with a female.
 

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Solar said:
@"Leader"'s most recent response is sufficient, so there's no point in my giving you the same answer. I will reiterate one thing, though, just so that there's no more confusion. It's not a choice, end of story.
Yea, but @"philly"'s post are also valid responses.
 

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Malzahar said:
Then what the hell is it. If it's not a choice, what is it? I can CHOOSE to stick my dick in a guy's anus, or I can CHOOSE to have sexual interactions with a female.

Yes, you can. But what you cannot choose is what you are attracted to.
 

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Yea, but @"philly"'s post are also valid responses.

Leader's latest response to Color was most relevant to the argument that Color brought up to me.
 

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Leader said:
Yes, you can. But what you cannot choose is what you are attracted to.

OK. I'll accept (doesn't mean I'll agree), your idea if you can tell me what it is, if it's not a choice.
 

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OK. I'll accept (doesn't mean I'll agree), your idea if you can tell me what it is, if it's not a choice.

It's not a choice. Your sexuality is engrained into your brain, whether you like it or not. No gay person chooses to be gay more than you choose to be straight.
 

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It's not a choice. Your sexuality is engrained into your brain, whether you like it or not. No gay person chooses to be gay more than you choose to be straight.

You keep spouting off that it's not a choice. If it is not a choice, then what is it?
 

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Malzahar said:
You keep spouting off that it's not a choice. If it is not a choice, then what is it?

I just answered that. Did you even read my last post?
 

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Malzahar said:
Then what the hell is it. If it's not a choice, what is it? I can CHOOSE to stick my dick in a guy's anus, or I can CHOOSE to have sexual interactions with a female.

Yes, you can choose to engage in intercourse with either a male or a female. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that you're sexually attracted to this sexual partner. I don't see what you're getting at.
 

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Solar said:
Yes, you can choose to engage in intercourse with either a male or a female. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that you're sexually attracted to this sexual partner. I don't see what you're getting at.

Let me clarify this @"Leader"... you are saying that you are BORN with your attraction? That it's your destiny? If so.. how do people change from straight to bi to gay etc?
 

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Malzahar said:
You keep spouting off that it's not a choice. If it is not a choice, then what is it?

It's your genetically-predetermined sexual orientation. That's exactly what it is.
 

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It's not a choice. Your sexuality is engrained into your brain, whether you like it or not. No gay person chooses to be gay more than you choose to be straight.
I think some people are forced to be straight, because to me some people probably think itt is a way to thrive and reproduce. (I am talking about other countries besides U.S.A.)
 

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Malzahar said:
It's a choice or rather a preference. I've seen men and women go from straight to bi to all the way homosexual. It's not some stupid "destiny". It's a preference, each person chooses who they are attracted to.

@Leader then explain to me, why can you look at a woman, love her, yet I'll look at the same woman, and will never be able to love her. It's not like you both were "destined" to be wed.

I will say this with pride, I am highly against homosexuality however I would NEVER bully, harass or go even as little as stating my opinion in most circumstances. With this being said just because I am straight doesn't mean you can make me love just any old haggard chick, that remark was just outrageous.
 

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Malzahar said:
Let me clarify this @"Leader"... you are saying that you are BORN with your attraction? That it's your destiny? If so.. how do people change from straight to bi to gay etc?

Don't try and put words into my mouth. Destiny means "the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future", and the fact that homosexuality is not a choice does not have any relation to the future, but a relation to the past. People may have realized that they aren't the sexuality they thought they were, or the decided to share it with the world.


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I will say this with pride, I am highly against homosexuality however I would NEVER bully, harass or even state my opinion in most circumstances. With this being said just because I am straight doesn't mean you can make me love just any old haggard chick, that remark was just outrageous.

What makes your dislike it?
 

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Don't try and put words into my mouth. Destiny means "the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future", and the fact that homosexuality is not a choice does not have any relation to the future, but a relation to the past. People may have realized that they aren't the sexuality they thought they were, or the decided to share it with the world.



What makes your dislike it?



I don't "dislike" it.. I'm looking at this with reason. So you believe that you are born with it, but sometimes you aren't sure what you like?
 

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Malzahar said:
Let me clarify this @"Leader"... you are saying that you are BORN with your attraction? That it's your destiny? If so.. how do people change from straight to bi to gay etc?

You don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. I'll make it very black and white for you.

If I choose to engage in intercourse with a female, and I am attracted to this female, I am straight.

If I choose to engage in intercourse with both a male, and I am attracted to this male, I am gay.

If I choose to engage in intercourse with both a man and a woman, and I am attracted to both the man and the woman, then I am bisexual.

Must I make this any clearer?
 

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Leader said:
The fact that they aren't aware that their actions are different from normal shows that it isn't a choice.


Little kids can act like that and grow up straight. It isn't anything of meaning to them. This doesn't prove anything.
 

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Malzahar said:
I don't "dislike" it.. I'm looking at this with reason. So you believe that you are born with it, but sometimes you aren't sure what you like?

I'm not putting words in your mouth, that's why I'm ASKING to try and confirm.
 
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