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Malzahar said:
That's what I'm saying. You can SUCCESSFULLY make someone want to be homosexual or straight. It's not in your chromosones and it sure as hell isn't in your DNA.
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You seemed to have, once again, failed to read my response.

I'm done debating with you. You refuse to attempt to comprehend my points, brush them away without refuting them, and fail to provide evidence for your claims.

500 said:
So, I don't see why you are question @"philly"'s opinion about him being against gays. There is nothing wrong with being against gays, not unless you harass them, try to hurt them, etc.
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I think it is morally wrong to be against them. I have a right to express my opinion, just as @Philly has a right to express his. However, that does not mean that either of our opinions aren't subject to criticism.
 

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Solar said:
This is the exact logic that I was trying to disprove. Did you even read my post? I specifically addressed the role of attraction.
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Do not put words in my mouth. I was not stating that having sexual interactions with someone would make you attracted. I stated that it was a choice to have intercourse with one gender or not.

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You seemed to have, once again, failed to read my response.

I'm done debating with you. You refuse to attempt to comprehend my points, brush them away without refuting them, and fail to provide evidence for your claims.
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I haven't been brushing anything away. I also haven't needed to provide evidence so far, as I'm questioning you. You've been saying that its in your head to start with, but you haven't shown any proof of it so far.
 

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Anyone that thinks being homosexual is okay/right/proper/moral/etc please just answer one and one question only. Why is their males, and females, and not just one sex. God or the higher power that created everything, including us could have created one sex with reproductive organs such as some other species that have been discovered, making it unintelligent to even remotely consider homosexuality being acceptable as being moral.

Please keep in mind I am not trying to offend, I am asking a serious question here., and absolutely mean to offend noone!
 

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Why don't you find evidence yourself to against @"leader"'s claim, as I do not seeing you posting your evidence either.
 

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I'm not putting words into your mouth. You're the one who put words into my mouth in your previous post.
 

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This is the most poinless thread on FK lol. But honestly are straight kids born straight?, and are doichebags born douchbags. @500
 

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Because. Many people say that "God"'s big gift was choice. He was giving us the "CHOICE" to choose which gender to be attracted to and which to have sexual interactions with.
 

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Malzahar said:
Adding to what @Color said, @Solar, there are some people who NEVER have sexual interactions in their life. It doesn't mean they aren't attracted to females or males.
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I'm very well aware of that. I specifically addressed the role of attraction in my previous post, and I don't see how it could have been misinterpreted. I'll do this all over again.

If you're a male, and you choose to engage in intercourse with another male, but you aren't actually attracted to this male, then you're not gay. You're straight.

If you're a male, and you choose to engage in intercourse with another male, and you are actually attracted to this male, then you're not straight. You're gay.
 

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DaVinci said:
This is the most poinless thread on FK lol. But honestly are straight kids born straight?, and are doichebags born douchbags. @500
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Some people are born straight.

Also douchbags are born douchbag is completely false. As this was a adjective to describe people made by are society, also people call us douchbags. How we reproduce, and how we feel is not controlled by us.
 

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500 said:
Why don't you find evidence yourself to against @"leader"'s claim, as I do not seeing you posting your evidence either.
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That's not exactly how I'm playing this. I'm letting him and his side go first, yet they haven't shown any evidence to prove their/his claims.
 

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500 said:
God is against gay people though, therefore you claim cannot be valid.
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Actually.. find me that in the bible. I've heard that statement SEVERAL times, yet I've never been able to locate it in the Bible. Perhaps you can?
 

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So why girlfriend was gay now shes straight been dating her for a year. Sexual preference is not in the picture when you are born. Why would a baby say "Yeah i want some dick", Makes no fucking sense. @500
 

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DaVinci said:
So why girlfriend was gay now shes straight been dating her for a year. Sexual preference is not in the picture when you are born. Why would a baby say "Yeah i want some dick", Makes no fucking sense. @500
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@Leader's quote to that is that individuals can be "unsure" of what they really are attracted to.
 

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Leader said:
http://www.nimbios.org/press/FS_homosexuality
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Considering the information provided by them was extremely brief I am surprised you are basing your personal opinions stickily off this. They provide nothing such as,

Study time,
Amount of total individuals studied
Amount of homosexual turned straight studied
Amount of straight turned homosexual studied
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I am sorry but if you are basing your opinion off one study that provides only a couple paragraphs you may need to do further research.

Malzahar said:
Because. Many people say that "God"'s big gift was choice. He was giving us the "CHOICE" to choose which gender to be attracted to and which to have sexual interactions with.
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Then why can males not reproduce? You statement makes no sense literally... If he was giving us a choice he would have made males able to reproduce as well..
 

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You're making an entirely different claim here. You're stating that since God created everything, homosexuality is immoral. But that's an entirely different argument. What is being argued here, or at least what I hope is being argued here, are the biological, genetic, or social reasons as to why homosexuality occurs and whether or not is moral. Your argument presupposes a creator, which is a logical fallacy.
 

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I was just speaking for those who might try and argue that. That's one of those questions that really makes you ponder on whether there is a God.
 

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Your not born anything. Your not straight, gay, lesbian, liberal, democratic, racist. Your just a clean slate and your either taught or learn your opinions/prefrences.
 

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Malzahar said:
Actually.. find me that in the bible. I've heard that statement SEVERAL times, yet I've never been able to locate it in the Bible. Perhaps you can?
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Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
 
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