Leader said:You're making an entirely different claim here. You're stating that since God created everything, homosexuality is immoral. But that's an entirely different argument. What is being argued here, or at least what I hope is being argued here, are the biological, genetic, or social reasons as to why homosexuality occurs and whether or not is moral. Your argument presupposes a creator, which is a logical fallacy.
Malzahar said:I was just speaking for those who might try and argue that. That's one of those questions that really makes you ponder on whether there is a God.
Malzahar said:Do not put words in my mouth. I was not stating that having sexual interactions with someone would make you attracted. I stated that it was a choice to have intercourse with one gender or not.
I haven't been brushing anything away. I also haven't needed to provide evidence so far, as I'm questioning you. You've been saying that its in your head to start with, but you haven't shown any proof of it so far.
Solar said:Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Philly said:Not really I am just stating strictly why I personally feel it is wrong.
Philly said:Anyone that thinks being homosexual is okay/right/proper/moral/etc please just answer one and one question only. Why is their males, and females, and not just one sex. God or the higher power that created everything, including us could have created one sex with reproductive organs such as some other species that have been discovered, making it unintelligent to even remotely consider homosexuality being acceptable as being moral.
Please keep in mind I am not trying to offend, I am asking a serious question here., and absolutely mean to offend noone!
highly against homosexuality
Leader said:Well, your argument still presupposes a creator. However, there is no evidence for a creator. Even if there were, you would have to make your argument for the existence of a creator before you move on to homosexuality.
If you would like to debate about a god, I'd be happy to do so.
Philly said:Not really I am just stating strictly why I personally feel it is wrong.
Amen to that.
Mystical Bill said:For you guys who say being gay is genetic, explain to me why there are so many girls and guys that are unsure about their sexuality, surely if it's a gene they would know, just as it's a gene that their hair color is what it is. Also explain bisexual people, is there a bisexual gene as well? Because you guys are saying "gay" gene, meaning same gender, not both genders intersecting.
Malzahar said:After a short discussion with a friend, I'm able to look at @Leader's proposition easier. The example that was presented before me was..
"When someone is born, they are either a 'righty' or a 'lefty'. They do not CHOOSE which hand they use pre-dominantly, they are simply born with it. You can teach them as much as you want and brainwash them even, but nothing will change the fact that they are and always WILL be a 'lefty'."
If you apply this to the same homosexual scene, I can get what @leader was saying. I apologize if I've said anything to foolish.
Leader said:You literally made me want to bang my head against a wall, but I'm glad you were able to understand it.
Philly said:I am scared to ask what I am making you want to do then. Considering you didn't seem to fond of my posts.
Leader said:Your posts aren't that bad, you are simply misguided. Your intolerance bugs me, but I'm going to do my best to help you change your mind.
His were inexplicably annoying. It's all good, though.
Malzahar said:Oh gee. Thanks, BUD. Way to make me feel good.. lol
Leader said:Your posts aren't that bad, you are simply misguided. Your intolerance bugs me, but I'm going to do my best to help you change your mind.
His were inexplicably annoying. It's all good, though.
Philly said:Trust me you will NEVER change my mind on this matter.
Leader said:That's one of the things that bothers me the most, but that's a whole 'nother issue.
Philly said:No I just am a stubborn person, and when I believe something I stick with it.
Leader said:I am usually the same, unless evidence is presented against my beliefs. That's when I change my mind. For example, if someone were to provide evidence for a deity, I would no longer be an atheist.
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