Are Gays Born Being Gay[Updated]

[Radical]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

You have almost the exact same views of the opposite sexuality. Your imposition of sexuality is acceptable towards them, but theirs towards your is considered unacceptable. It's silly.

So it is not ok for a straight male to be sexually touched, talked to, etc. by a gay male.

But, it is ok for a gay not want to be sexually touched, talked to, etc. by a straight women?

 

[Phormick]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

So, you guys are arguing that @philly is homophobic. If he was he would have banned @illegal (Pretty sure he was gay), and would have joined WestBoro Baptist Church by now.

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This is the debate section, so post logical and valid responses. This isn't in the spam and trolling section for a reason.

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Take a joke and lighten up. Jesus. Stop TRYING to be HQ..

 

[Nevermind]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

So it is not ok for a straight male to be sexually touched, talked to, etc. by a gay male.

But, it is ok for a gay not want to be sexually touched, talked to, etc. by a straight women?

You seemed to have failed to read my response correctly.

I said that in our society, it's not acceptable for a gay man to hit on a straight man, but no one cares if a straight woman does the same to a gay man.

 

[Radical]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

You seemed to have failed to read my response correctly.

I said that in our society, it's not acceptable for a gay man to hit on a straight man, but no one cares if a straight woman does the same to a gay man.

Oh I see what your saying now. Well, my only response to that is I think if a gay guy does that to them, they have to tell the whole world. The reason is because they can't put it off of their shoulders. When it happens to the homosexual their response is "Sorry I'm gay" or they say no thank you trying not to care. (My response is based on my opinion).

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Take a joke and lighten up. Jesus. Stop TRYING to be HQ..

1. The only reason I said that to you was, because you responded with a second time about magic, which was no point to do.

2. I'm not trying, if I was i would correct all of my mistakes in grammar, and I am not trying. I am just serious in this section of FK.

 

[Radical]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

@leader and @philly, this is why I don't like to argue with gay marriage, because most of the time the person against it says they are, everyone starts bombing them with hate, and people that agree with gay marriage tries to change their mind on how they feel about it. But one somebody else says they don't care, nobody yells at them or tries to change how they feel.

I am right now comparing this to @leader (even though you are an atheist) pretend he was a Christian trying to change @"philly"'s mind about god is real. There is no point, because there is a 90% chance he won't change his mind.

 

[Color]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

You seemed to have failed to read my response correctly.

I said that in our society, it's not acceptable for a gay man to hit on a straight man, but no one cares if a straight woman does the same to a gay man.

There is a pretty distinct difference. They should know it will potentially make them uncomfortable, it's been made very clear in society. The opposite, however, cannot be said. How is a woman going to know the sexuality of a random guy?
I'm also curious why it is that homosexual women have been completely excluded from this topic? I've brought this up several times, seems it hasn't been noticed.

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@leader and @philly, this is why I don't like to argue with gay marriage, because most of the time the person against it says they are, everyone starts bombing them with hate, and people that agree with gay marriage tries to change their mind on how they feel about it. But one somebody else says they don't care, nobody yells at them or tries to change how they feel.

I am right now comparing this to @leader (even though you are an atheist) pretend he was a Christian trying to change @"philly"'s mind about god is real. There is no point, because there is a 90% chance he won't change his mind.

Please read and understand the title of this section, then come back, sir.
This is not an argument, this is what you call a debate.

 

[Radical]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

There is a pretty distinct difference. They should know it will potentially make them uncomfortable, it's been made very clear in society. The opposite, however, cannot be said. How is a woman going to know the sexuality of a random guy?
I'm also curious why it is that homosexual women have been completely excluded from this topic? I've brought this up several times, seems it hasn't been noticed.

When I wrote this, when I meant gays I meant all gays (including lesbian), but I guess gay is for men now and lesbian is for girls.

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There is a pretty distinct difference. They should know it will potentially make them uncomfortable, it's been made very clear in society. The opposite, however, cannot be said. How is a woman going to know the sexuality of a random guy?
I'm also curious why it is that homosexual women have been completely excluded from this topic? I've brought this up several times, seems it hasn't been noticed.

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Please read and understand the title of this section, then come back, sir.

This is not an argument, this is what you call a debate.

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I just said that, because they went completely off topic. I hoped that statement may bring them to stop arguing, and some people can post off the original subject.

 

[Color]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

When I wrote this, when I meant gays I meant all gays (including lesbian), but I guess gay is for men now and lesbian is for girls.

Gay is just another term for homosexuality, specification shouldn't be needed, it's broad and includes both sexes.

 

[ForumKorner]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

They don't choose to be gay, they are born gay.
In my psychology class we learned about the brain like the parts and what their main function is for...
We learned about one part of the brain called "Hypothalamus", this part of the brain controls your body temperature, thirst, hunger, and other homeostatic systems, and involved in sleep and emotional activity.
"In 1991, a study published in the journal Science seemed to show that the hypothalamus, which controls the release of sex hormones from the pituitary gland, in gay men differs from the hypothalamus in straight men. The third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus was found to be more than twice as large in heterosexual men as in homosexual men."

 

[Radical]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

They don't choose to be gay, they are born gay.
In my psychology class we learned about the brain like the parts and what their main function is for...
We learned about one part of the brain called "Hypothalamus", this part of the brain controls your body temperature, thirst, hunger, and other homeostatic systems, and involved in sleep and emotional activity.
"In 1991, a study published in the journal Science seemed to show that the hypothalamus, which controls the release of sex hormones from the pituitary gland, in gay men differs from the hypothalamus in straight men. The third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus was found to be more than twice as large in heterosexual men as in homosexual men."

No going back on topic, after this I have decided when you are born you sexual orientation is determined. If anyone has a reason to disagree with this be my guest.

 

[Phormick]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

This topic has gone so far off-topic. First we debated about whether homosexuals were born homosexual, and now we are arguing about whether gay marriage should be allowed.

 

[Story]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I personally think that you have a choice to be gay or not.

 

[Cann!bal]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I fail to understand why this debate on whether it's genetic or not matters. The fact, whichever way, changes nothing. Homosexuals still rightfully deserve to be treated equally regardless.

Besides, it's already been proven to exist. One's sex isn't defined by their genitalia. The XY sex determination system isn't that simple. There's a reason gays are so conventionally feminine and there's a reason lesbians are so conventionally masculine. I have difficulty thinking that homosexual insects learned to be homosexual, really any animal for that matter besides humans. Insects don't even know they exist. Most insect behavior is genetically programmed, or innate. It's much more easier to assume homosexuality is a byproduct of the transition of asexuality to sexuality than to assume we learn it, despite some animals lacking the mental capacity to learn it.

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Anyone that thinks being homosexual is okay/right/proper/moral/etc please just answer one and one question only. Why is their males, and females, and not just one sex. God or the higher power that created everything, including us could have created one sex with reproductive organs such as some other species that have been discovered, making it unintelligent to even remotely consider homosexuality being acceptable as being moral.

Please keep in mind I am not trying to offend, I am asking a serious question here., and absolutely mean to offend noone!

Sexuality became more advantageous than asexuality because sexuals can reproduce faster than asexuals.

I don't think you understand what moral means.

 

[Philly]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I fail to understand why this debate on whether it's genetic or not matters. The fact, whichever way, changes nothing. Homosexuals still rightfully deserve to be treated equally regardless.

Besides, it's already been proven to exist. One's sex isn't defined by their genitalia. The XY sex determination system isn't that simple. There's a reason gays are so conventionally feminine and there's a reason lesbians are so conventionally masculine. I have difficulty thinking that homosexual insects learned to be homosexual, really any animal for that matter besides humans. Insects don't even know they exist. Most insect behavior is genetically programmed, or innate. It's much more easier to assume homosexuality is a byproduct of the transition of asexuality to sexuality than to assume we learn it, despite some animals lacking the mental capacity to learn it.

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Sexuality became more advantageous than asexuality because sexuals can reproduce faster than asexuals.

I don't think you understand what moral means.

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Can you say HORMONE PILLS......

Now you are saying it's okay to be gay because it's advantageous? So is fucking 3 chicks at once...

I am petty damn sure I do know what Moral means... "Concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character." Straight off Google, but basically what I would say minus 8 words.

 

[jason]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I believe some are born gay, while others transition temporarily or permanently from straight to homosexual through sensual experiences, fantasies, or simply strong curiosities with or about the same gender.

 

[Cann!bal]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Can you say HORMONE PILLS......

Now you are saying it's okay to be gay because it's advantageous? So is fucking 3 chicks at once...

I am petty damn sure I do know what Moral means... "Concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character." Straight off Google, but basically what I would say minus 8 words.

Transgenders and sometimes pre-ops take hormone pills, not gays.

No... You're misconstruing what I am saying. I was answering your question that you proposed to people who accept homosexuality.

Googling it and giving me the definition doesn't demonstrate you understand it. Read the definition. You think homosexuality is bad and wrong?

 

[Philly]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I believe some are born gay, while others transition temporarily or permanently from straight to homosexual through sensual experiences, fantasies, or simply strong curiosities with or about the same gender.

This is probably the most accurate response yet, however no actual proof has ever been provided from a reputable source with enough details, and credentials to mean jack shit to prove any are born that way. However I don't see reverence in whether that would matter or not anyways, as it really doesn't matter as to the reason why I guess...

 

[Prepare]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I believe some are born gay, while others transition temporarily or permanently from straight to homosexual through sensual experiences, fantasies, or simply strong curiosities with or about the same gender.

I understand what you're saying, but then I don't. How can some people be born gay and have this so-called 'gay gene' while other's don't? Does that mean the rest that aren't gay have the 'straight gene'? Forgive my ignorance if I'm missing a point here. I just kind of hopped in this.

 

[Philly]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Transgenders and sometimes pre-ops take hormone pills, not gays.

No... You're misconstruing what I am saying. I was answering your question that you proposed to people who accept homosexuality.

Googling it and giving me the definition doesn't demonstrate you understand it. Read the definition. You think homosexuality is bad and wrong?

If you seriously think only transgenders take hormone pills you are delusional dude.

No I do not think homosexuality is wrong.. I know it's wrong for an absolute fact. As that is how I was taught, and raised like every other straight american with a stable household, and a proper education. Do I give a fuck if you or anyone else is homosexual though? Fuck no... Do your thing, don't push it on me though as I already said. Anyone straight or even gay for that matter with any bit of respect would have absolutely no problem with that or even be slightly offended.

I understand what you're saying, but then I don't. How can some people be born gay and have this so-called 'gay gene' while other's don't? Does that mean the rest that aren't gay have the 'straight gene'? Forgive my ignorance if I'm missing a point here. I just kind of hopped in this.

@Jason never said anything about any "gay-gene" someone else made up that theory.

 

[Prepare]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

@Jason never said anything about any "gay-gene" someone else made up that theory.

Right. But he's basically contradicting himself by saying some people are born gay and some get to choose. It's really either one or the other.

I believe you have the ability to choose what sex you are attracted to because at any point I can say "Oh, shit, I like males now.". Where as if I was born with a 'gene' or whatever you may call it, I would not be able to.